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  What would you say?

  by Freedom rocks in

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  if you had 2 minutes with an old witness friend or with a family member to convince them the 'truth' is a lie and the gb isnt being directed by god what would you say to get their attention that might make them question their beliefs?.

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  Sail Away

  I have seen and experienced myself that getting away from indoctrination sessions for a period of time helps tremendously, then you might be able to make some inroads. With doctrine, it is not one size fits all. What is important to one person, may not matter to another at all. It almost always seems to require a real or perceived personal or family injustice to open the door.
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  Do You Ever Play Words With Friends?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  very addicting!.

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  I did until I found out a "Friend" downloaded a list of two- and three-letter words as a cheat sheet.
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  Snake In My Fridge

  by finallysomepride in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i just now went to get meat from my fridge to cook, took the meat out & shut the door as i shut the door i thought i saw a piece of rope in the six pack i had just opened & had removed 2 cans, already drunk 1.. open the door again & there i saw what i thought was a piece of rope, but i look a bit closer ...... shit it's a friggin snake, bugger i had only just taken two cans out wtf.. .

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  Sail Away

  OK, now I'm having second thoughts about traveling to Costa Rica for our 40th Anniversary. Yikes!
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  DF’d or DA???

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, i think i’m going to be df’d, but elders are out of town and no decision has been officially reached.

  what would happen if i sent a certified overnight letter and said that i was going to disassociate before they have their meeting??.

  i know the two conditions are similar, but i’m just curious... dd.

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  Sail Away

  I chose to send a letter of resignation by way of my attorney. Ultimately the same effect as DF/DA, but I took control of my life. Best thing ever to be free of this cult.
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  Are you affected by Seasonal Affective Disorder?

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as i intimate in the words below, i like autumn and winter, but there's a downward spiral in my emotions.

  i'm in control, yet, .

  rain, at long last, has touched both our land and my soul.

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  Sail Away

  Yes, everything feels bleak and hopeless. Every year it seems harder to make it through 'til spring.
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  Older JW: not happy

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this week i visited my sick father in law.. then an old elder from my far away congregation came in for coffee.

  did not see him in 15 years.. nice chat.

  had a lot to say, is alone, his sick wife disabled and away from home.. he told me: "living alone is so hard.

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  Sail Away

  I only have contact with one active JW in her early 80's. She has admitted that she will likely die before Armageddon, but you know, "We have to stay faithful to the end." Funny thing is, she just told be, that I'm the only one who has ever been there for her, and she only trusts me to care of her when she gets sick. She knows I walked away nearly 7 years ago now. She's pretty much a fruit loop, and ignored by her congregation, but she's my fruitloop.

  Something is up with Mr. Sail Away's 90-year-old Dad. He isn't listening to the elders and is listening to the son he shunned for nearly 50 years. The only comment so far was, "We don't always agree with the administration of Jehovah's organization, but that's where faith comes in."
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  Why do ex-JW's talk so much about being ex-JW's?

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is it because we were in the cult watchtower compound that we talk about being ex-jw's when we stop being active?

  i have never heard anyone say that i was an ex-catholic or an ex-lutheran or an ex-baptist.

  they just stop going to their church and don't talk about it.. years after not stepping inside a kingdom hell, many of us still have to talk about being ex-jw's.

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  Sail Away

  Maybe it's a generational thing? Both of our born-in, baptized adult children (Millennials) walked away and never looked back.

  Mr. Sail Away posts on reddit. He and I both lived through the 1975 fiasco, the Malawi persecution scam, were denied college educations and believed we had to conform to restrictive bedroom rules for couples, dating and married. Also, my husband was shunned for nearly 50 years by his JW parents until very recently when the local elders demanded that he, their only son, step up and take care of his aging parents.

  We paid for our daughter's college education, even though I was still in, because I didn't want her to limit her potential.

  Our son suffered tremendously and was DF'd. I refused to shun him and walked away. It took him about 10 years, and he is so much better now, but that is his story to tell someday, or not.
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  On Grief and Loss

  by jp1692 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  on grief and loss.

  each and every tear is a memory.

  and when you feel so intensely all that you have lost, you are also remembering everything that you have had.

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  Sail Away

  Thank you, jp
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  Did You Go To Meetings in Very Inclement Weather?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  living in new england means having lots of snow and cold.

  elders were very reluctant to cancel or reschedule a meeting due to the weather.

  i lived 3 towns away from the kingdom hall and if it was icy and treacherous my vote would always be to cancel the meeting....and forget about rescheduling!.

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  Sail Away

  I live in New England and agree that the trend was an increase in cancellations due to inclement weather from pre-1975 (unheard of) to 2011 (routine) when I left.

  As a "sister with an unbelieving mate" and two children I raised in The Lie, I leaned toward caution about driving at night in bad weather, but I was a fruitcake and went out in service on holidays and during snowstorms!

  I pioneered in seldom-worked territory in the Midwest, USA in the mid-70's, and don't ever remember a cancelled meeting or field service. My pioneer partner got frostbite, and I landed in the hospital for 11 days with pneumonia. Thankfully, that put an end to my FT pioneer career until after my kids were grown.

  I won't be venturing out now until the temps rise above freezing. I don't care if it takes 'til Spriing! Oh, and I rarely go out at night alone. I abhor it!
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  Anxiety, OCD, Hoarding, and the JWs

  by Spiral in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm noticing what seems to be a higher incidence of the above among the local jws than in the "general" (read: worldly) population.

  i don't say this lightly, my wanderings around the fringes of jw society locally is revealing an alarming trend here.

  the poverty doesn't help (there are good jobs, but you need a degree or qualifications to get one).. anyone else see this?

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  Sail Away

  Sail Away - the subject of giving talks and speaking came up the other day. I just said (here's a new thought!) that I didn't see the purpose of it so therefore hadn't given a talk in years. Since everything is set out before you give the "talk", there's really no point, is there? Why make anyone do that, if they aren't comfortable with doing it? Practicing a sham type of "public speaking" isn't something I need to do. Now THAT was a conversation stopper. --Spiral

  Brilliant!